hey #fediverse, I'm looking to create a collection of social sustainable VPS providers
some characteristics:
- green energy
- worker owned
- organic growth
- opensource
- NO hyperscale
some examples:
- https://www.webarchitects.coop/
- https://capsul.org/
- https://hcoop.net/
- https://iocoop.org
- https://greenhost.net/
please send me more!
@humanetech hey peeps, I'm thinking heheh
I'll probably open an `awesome-sustainable-vps` or something related somewhere and link it back to `awesome-human-tech` and the #delightful project
what do you think?
If it is a good awesome list I can link to it from awesome-humane-tech. But I have no appropriate #delightful list to link from.
The delightful project has 'stricter' rules than awesome project on GH in that only #foss #OpenScience and #OpenData resources are allowed. OTOH less strict is that the list does not have to reside on Github.
Here's the top-level awesome list (with the additional downside that it is ad-sponsored): https://github.com/sindresorhus/awesome
might not be a good fit for delightful, since some host providers don't follow a strict #foss environment, but I'll link it under the awesome-human-tech!
hope to get a pull request next week there ✨
Yeah, but in some cases in delightful there can be an exception. There's already one curated sublist delightful-funding, where I allow this.
The argument here is that funding is the Achilles Heel of most #foss projects, and they should have a broad range of options to choose from, weigh the pros and cons for themself. (I'll probably feature the best resources more prominently)
https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful-funding/issues/1
Something similar might apply to you, should you make it a #delightful list.
@humanetech thanks for all the comprehensive list and resources, I’ll check them over the weekend!
also, thanks for taking the time, it’s been my first weeks on the #fediverse and I’m very happy to fine connections like you ❤️
@jonatasbaldin thanks to you too. It is always nice to see people spending time on projects like yours. And having you on the Fediverse 🤗
@jonatasbaldin hey, great list you have already. Very nice!
I have merged on Awesome #HumaneTech .. https://github.com/humanetech-community/awesome-humane-tech#related-awesomeness
The #delightful PR is more involved. I think it can be a delighful list given the criteria for inclusion you documented. But then it needs to comply to the Delightul format.
This would mean renaming the repo to delightful-sustainable-vps among others.
Note: 'delightful' as name was deliberately chosen, as it expresses more than just 'awesome' (e.g. useful, needed).
@jonatasbaldin if you would rename, then the list would also automatically become part of the deliciously https://delightful.club/ website just started by @yarmo
Oh *automatically* should be: eligible, as a PR is needed.
why not!? just renamed the project and the content of the PR for the Delightful project ✨
Woot! The PR has been merged :D
Welcome to the #delightful project. Note that there are a couple of things to change to the list. I've described them in the PR comment.
Now you can also PR to https://delightful.club and after things are ready, we'll send some toots around :)
@humanetech sometimes, just sometimes, toots work as a decent PR ersatz 😉 in other words, the sustainable VPS list has just been added to the https://delightful.club website :)
Ha ha.. it works even cross-repo..
In what #delightful database category shall we place #IceFireDb?
https://github.com/IceFireDB/IceFireDB
Suggesting a new one.. see repo issue.
@hbenjamin that is indeed the repo we are talking about :) but @humanetech has a gift for finding niche databases and every time, we need to fit them in the right category. Or, like this time, make a new category!
@humanetech again, I'll never cease to be amazed with how you find all these exotic databases 😅
Yeah, "special purpose" sounds good to me.
No idea what #icefiredb is about yet, will read tomorrow with a clearer mind!
@yarmo wait for a surprising number of new entries.. I had more of them piled up in browser tabs than I remembered :D
@yarmo @humanetech thanks mate ⭐️
I have added an issue suggesting a slightly larger scope for the list, so that it can also hold providers that host free software packages, if you are open to doing so..
https://codeberg.org/jonatasbaldin/delightful-sustainable-vps/issues/5
@jonatasbaldin excellent! Been looking to shift to Green Host and trying to find others as well
@deasun me too!
hope to compile a list somewhere and link back to this post :)
I ordered a VPS with Greenhost during the week & setting it up now. All good.
But also then found this Icelandic crew. I'm using them for FreeDNS but they provide range of services - decent pricing and seems like great ethos
@deasun yep, I'm about to setup a VPS with them too!
@gert thanks!
couldn't find any information on pricing, is is there somewhere?
@jonatasbaldin I don't think eclipse is commercial. If you are looking for commercial hosters, I cannot help you i'm afraid.
@gert got it, you need to fit their cause and apply, right?
@jonatasbaldin That is what I understood yes.
@gert @jonatasbaldin I wish that site didn't use silly animations which Firefox mobile doesn't seem to like. Makes it very hard to read and is utterly pointless
@jdaviescoates @gert 10000000% agree
@jonatasbaldin I'd say 1984 fits the your criteria. https://www.1984.is/
@mxv yes it does, thanks!
@jonatasbaldin I started a wiki with some of those characteristics for finding EU-based, US-independent cloud providers. https://www.eucloud.tech/
@jeremiahlee wow, these are lots of cool links, thanks a bunch!
@jeremiahlee @jonatasbaldin Oh this is super useful, thank you!
@jdaviescoates am I right in remembering you have a list with at least some of these criteria?
@handle yeah, mine was just about being renewable powered, but I like the sound of this list too! My list at https://ud.coop/ecovps
@petros didn't find anything related to VPS, could you help me out?
@jonatasbaldin mayfirst.coop
we're not great about the green energy aspect yet, but we are slowly working on it.
This post is a good nudge for me to pick up on the research threads I was following before.
https://comment.mayfirst.org/t/mayfirst-and-climate-justice/1483/11
@clayton this seems amazing! is there a VPS option for the members?
@jonatasbaldin there is!
This page outlines specific membership packages available
@jonatasbaldin @mikael@social.umeahackerspace.se Not sure which of these criteria Tranquility fits, but maybe most?
@pettter yep, it seems to fit!
@jonatasbaldin https://tilaa.com runs 100% on renewable energy (https://www.tilaa.com/en/blog/tilaa-being-green), don't seem to chase hyper-scale (they only have two DCs), uses KVM (https://support.tilaa.com/hc/en-us/articles/228650867-Which-virtualization-solution-does-Tilaa-use-) but the rest of the tooling is apparently proprietary. Not sure about their ownership model either.
(Been using their VPSes for 9 years, but I'm not otherwise affiliated.)
@minoru I hear you. It seems business-as-usual, but a good alternative to the main providers. Thanks!
@jonatasbaldin probably the best: https://1984.is
@claus second one sending me this, 100% on the list :D
I agree, I'll actually shoot them an email raising this discussion, see what they think about it.
BTW, I've read before about crypto just fucking up our planet and I agree. I was wondering: is there any *actual good social outcome* from cryptocurrency? i.e a specific coin that doesn't lead to massive networks or something similar?
I don't know that much on the subject :(
@boringcactus just logged into their platform and didn't find the crypto option, although it is describe on the main
@jonatasbaldin
Such lists are needed! Would you consider maintaining it as a curated sub-list of the #delightful project?
https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful
You can provide it from any forge. I was also considering adding something similar to awesome-humane-tech, but I might also just cross-ref to a good link from the Related Awesomeness section.
https://github.com/humanetech-community/awesome-humane-tech/issues/78