So, I opened a new tab in #Firefox and immediately notice this. After a brief WTF moment, I click on the dots menu over the icon and land on this page:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/sponsor-privacy
(Note that from the URL I removed the UTM: `as=u&utm_source=inproduct`)
To sum up, another automatic opt-in from which I have to say no in the settings.
@matt didn't know of that. I see it's now owned by the company who makes Startpage?
@m2m Correct! Was independent until fairly recently. But there don't seem to be (m)any changes since the acquisition. 🙃
@matt looks very interesting, especially due to the fact it supports both Firefox and Chrome extensions. Reminds me of Orion. Though, I have to admit I don't have a particular Chrome extension that I miss on Firefox...
@m2m I can't believe they can't read the room better. The people still using their browser really put off by that type stuff
@tchambers @obsolete29 I agree with both of you, in fact I'm a bit torn.
@tchambers @obsolete29 also, Firefox is at the moment the only browser allowing a conveniente sync between macOS and Android. Safari is out of the question because it's not platform-agnostic — plus I must be one of the few Mac users who dislike Safari — and I really really would love to avoid switching to a Chromium-based browser.
@m2m So is it opt-in or opt-out?
@madargon you have to opt-out in the settings.
@madargon same as for telemetry.
@m2m I've used libre wolf which is a ff fork. Seems well maintained but I'm no expert. I wish they would try to come up with other methods of funding rather than intrusive advertising. I wish they'd focus on the browser and forget all this VPN and other stuff they have going on. Like Tim I think having a viable non chromium browser is critical.
@m2m I am increasingly inclined to #deletefirefox
@rresoli I think I'll resist.
@m2m Me too at the moment, but I'm getting tired seeing these practices
@m2m on mobile i already switched to fennec.
@m2m on desktop there are many alternatives, ungoogled-chromium and brave, and maybe vivaldi
@rresoli tried them all, I really don't want to switch to a Blink/Chromium browser. I actually have and use Brave for web dev testing purposes, and Vivaldi has become totally bloated (plus closed source). Ungoogled Chromium is pretty unstable, at least on macOS.
@rresoli can you keep your Firefox account in sync with Fennec, like you can with Librewolf?
@m2m no ffox account here.
@m2m but I've heard of LibreWolf and probably is the best ffox fork for privacy.
@rresoli F-droid e' bilingue? :D
@m2m Time to switch to #Waterfox ?